1.repenting to GOD the Father in FAITH , (John 1:33) And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.. This is not a one time event this is continuous. God in Christ is always the Origninal Prototype in healing. He suggested some excercises for a posture problem. One of these deceivers is Torben Sondergaard from last reformation so-called. Then we have WALKING ON WATER.PETER DID TOO for a short time. Especially when it starts out with leg lengthening which seems to have been one of the frauds / hucksters favorite tricks. And they said to him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. (Luke 22: 51) This move of God will be marked by love, unselfconscious holiness, fullness of joy and deep loyalty to Jesus and to each other . Where was the simplicity of Christ there? Jda 016, He said that it would not only be one or two places, but it would be all over the country. Rom 3:23 KJV For all have sinned, and COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD; In other words.you have failed to manifest the tangible Presence of God and His Nature. The rest all succumbed in the desert because of their sins and disbelief. He comprehends the sorrow of a bereaved soul. You can be ashamed of that name if you want but I will gladly bear the reproach of that wonderful name any day! Judge Yon Alberdi, an appointee of Obama Attorney General Eric Holder, ruled Sndergaard did not meet the requirements for asylum. On the contrary, Im sure you hope and pray as I do that they will be aware of and resist the wiles of the adversary and remain in the humble simplicity of Christ, amen! A wooden staff that turns into a snake. I do not consider any of the miracles Jesus did in any way wierd. Andrew, why do you attack the truth in the age of deception? by Jonathan Welton. Jesus said greater works than these shall you do! One day, after they had put GOD IN A BOX, they did not INQUIRE OF THE LORD and just took the Ark of the Lord and put it in front of them and went into battle. weird, eerie, uncanny mean mysteriously strange or fantastic. Seymour had approached a man with a wooden leg and asked, What did you come here for? The man replied, I want you to pray for my leg. Each one is even given different measures of faith, another thing that is often forgotten about. of hyper-grace and hyper-charismania. I heard of a series of miraculous healings on someone involved in a bad car accident and God seemed to be one step ahead of the doctors. Jesus teleported a whole BOAT FULL of Himself and the disciples across the sea. Elijah prayed ONE SENTENCE and fire instantly fell from God. He chose twelve disciples to preach the Kingdom of God, not to create a sect. (Matthew 3:11-12) John the Baptist says: I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance:but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear:he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. In the NT, Jesus is dealing with 1 demoniac at a time.in one instance (the herd of pigs incident) there were 2 demoniacs. The fakes and charlatans lengthen legs to try to copy the original healings of God. TheDude, telling us you are being humble and gracious REAKS of self-righteousness . . I may have been a bit unclear in my position regarding what Chas 351 has said. `in His hand is a sacred censer.`, This shows the regenerative ability of the entitled Son of Man in His Creatorship & Judgeship. Amen!!! We are merely obeying God who commands us to test the spirits to see whether they are from God because MANY false prophets have gone out into the world (1 John 4:1). He claims that " about 90 percent of all the people, that he or others in his team pray for, are healed". There is even scripture that says some were casting out demons, and the disciples wanted it stopped yet Yeshua says that they who were for them were not against them and to leave them alone. I prevail upon all here not to fall into the ways of the world and engage in these ad hominem attacks. The first video is very bad. The leg lengthening thing Ive seen happen in real life and, no, it wasnt a trick because I knew everyone involved and they were almost as shocked as I was. The ENEMY comes as an angel of Light..and copies the same MIRACLES that Jesus did. 2000 years agp the worldly people called Yeshuas followers Christians. I dont see anyone in Wierdsville multiplying wine, walking on water, etc etc ( and whatever other miracles Lightning mentioned ) . Gal 3:27 All that Christ wanted was faith in Himself. 1) to be anxious You work so hard to promote the flesh that you think you can discredit or attack anyone who says any trickster can appear to lengthen a leg a half inch. But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of it, they tore their robes and rushed out into the crowd, crying out and saying, Men, why are you doing these things? Many people have asked me what I know about Danish evangelist Torben Sondergaard, the founder of the Last Reformation movement, and whether he's part of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). If I and others who believed and prayed and were filled, which christian would rebuke this? The tone of these responses is very disturbing. We know from scripture what God thinks of hybrids/mixtures, so we are not to touch the unclean thing but come out of there. This is nothing but human sorcery at its worst . Try it you will like it!!! To your credit, you were honest and admitted as such. There is no time like the present. The Youth and Children of Azusa Street Tell Their Stories Retold by Brother Tommy. According to the doctrine of Pentecostalism, if you cant speak in tongues, then you are not saved. He was making the essential distinction between those who were Gods and those who were not, not a sectarian distinction among those who were Gods. [8]Lack of healing is caused by a lack of faithwhich is Word of Faith doctrine to the core. God said for us to acknowledge him in all our ways and he will direct our paths. Jesus was concerned enough about Lazarus to weep at his death, and then He did something about it. And indeed we must maintain the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace. Sometimes it is our fear for anothers situation which prompts intercession, the sharing of warnings, admonishments or what-have-you. This is just my personal belief and not only will we do all that God commands us, but His very Glory will go before us. In fact, doesnt it say that we most certainly shouldnt do that, and then call it of God? Start that IN ME MY GOD!!!! Brown Is LIVE on the Line of Fire every Monday - Friday from 3 - 4 PM EST On Facebook and Youtube.Sign Up for Weekly Updates! I left it that and said, Lord Thy will be done FEAR NOT is listed in the King James version144 times. What I see here is a man willing to walk in obedience to what Jesus told us to do and yet some want to stone him to death. Torben believes in taking new Christians out on the street very quickly to pray for the sick and share the gospel. Bill Johnsons ministry could not save her and she died. It would be far too obvious if someone were to claim to be Jesus, to dismiss them. We are gentiles and we believe solely by faith and we do not need to be baptized in water. Dear Barry .here is a quote from your post. walked right on camera. To me, he is one of the few preachers eerie suggests an uneasy or fearful consciousness that mysterious and malign powers are at work . And it is the church of the future. Im honestly smiling about this; not offended one bit, though I do feel sorry for yall. In Luke 9:49, 50, John said, Master we saw a man casting out demons in your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow with us. But Jesus said to him, Do not forbid him, for he that is not against you is for you. John wanted the disciples to monopolize the truth among themselves and exclude all those who did not belong to his group. Yeshua said, of myself I can do nothing but only what I see and hear of the Father. Theres talk of not judging, unless you know the person, but then no one here knows me, yet judges me. They are still carrying the sting of it, instead of saying, O death where is thy sting? So what does it look like when you have a whole congregation full of demons, principalities, powers, rulers of wickedness, familiar spirits, witchcraft practicioners.and then the Glory of God comes to set people free all at once? There is no such office of healer mentioned in the NT. The Holy Spirit & His Word agree. No one could get him to stop rejoicing and praising God. There is a MIXTURE that has always been christianity. Teshuva- you are absolutely right on saying this is Gods work and not mans and that man can only produce mans work but God can only do Gods works. Thank God for this man from Scandinavia who was prepared to get out the boat and walk on water! If a person believes I do not have to always obey The Lord Jesus , in their heart they also believe I do have to listen to Jesus . He was a new believer who just found out about the Grace of God, the redemption of the cross, the Word of God. "Torben detailed his life in ministry. Because of Jesus i: uncanny implies disquieting strangeness or mysteriousness . 0 20 20 comments Best Correction: Who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? He had a bout with fear as the guards told him he would spend a long time in prison and then be deported, the fate of virtually all the inmates at ICE's Baker County Facility in Florida. Nothing wrong with asking questions. We are committed to delivering quality independent Christian journalism you can trust. In early church for a season it was said of the Lords work which became so prevalent , This gospel is spreading to more and more people so that everyone in Asia Minor has heard about it and from that time forward the name of Jesus became greatly feared amoung all the poeple and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world and then the end will come.. Brother Seymour asked the crowd, Would you like to see God have a wonderful time here tonight? Jesus hasnt changed! How about an ordinary man/woman telling people that they saw and went into HEAVEN and saw all these different many headed beasts and angels and chariots of fire? But where are these authentic Jesus miracles in WIERDSVILLE ? Gods whole plan was to tabernacle with man, and yet the Hebrews wanted Moses to hear from God and they would do whatever God told Moses to tell them to do. USURPING the role of the Holy Spirit is very dangerous for ones health and welfare.check the scriptures. He did not create us as clones, but as unique individuals, according to (and for) His pleasure. ** In the Name of Jesus, I command this leg to grow out. Praise God for men like Torben who have not been raised up in these schools for the prophetic. Please let the Holy Spirit discern, not flesh judgement!! Fewer religious spirits to break through maybe? Certainly going to a local village for instance and seeing the Elder of a village get healed dramatically by us, is going to get the attention of the whole village on God very quickly and allow the preaching of the word to follow without effort. You strain a gnat an swallow a camel! I know his She told me she had a 275 pound tumor growing inside her stomach which was cutting off her lungs and internal organs from functioning. We are also men of the same nature as you, and preach the gospel to you that you should turn from these vain things to a living God, WHO MADE THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH AND THE SEA AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM. Amen. That is a very big issue, in my view. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. The Cloud of Glory Presence led them by day. Yes. Think of what was inside the arkthe tablets of stone written by the finger of Godmiraculously. And so, he just did what the bible said for him to do. Torben Sondergaard is a Danish pastor who is facing extraordinary persecution for exercising his Christian faith. Yet, what I did, I did in the Holy NAME of JESUS, under the authority of the Son of God, the Lamb of God, the remitter of my sins, and the only NAME wherein we can be saved. One more thing. Doing the REAL thing is NOT a prim and proper church serviceit is messy..take a look at the demonic deliverances in the NT. And immediately her flow of blood stopped. At once, the currents of holy power passed through my being, and I knew that it likewise passed through the one who was sick. Editing Comments: Your prayers in your native language are so weak Jesus Christ does not even hear them, thats why God prefers you to speak to Him in a prayer language instead. If youre not experiencing His tangible Presence in your private prayer time, youre missing the LIFE that Jesus Christ DIED TO GIVE TO EACH OF US for the salvation of the rest of the world. Officials found nothing wrong. 35 years of not seeing healings and being told they dont happen today have a very bad effect on my faith, and I need this to show me that it doesnt have to be like that after all! There is a great emphasis in the Last Reformation Movement on feelings and the gifts and their 'model for church' is confined to Acts. To Torben, I would say that if what you are doing is of the Lord, you dont need to go around tooting your own horn about it. So, you may now attack the truth once again. Tags: Baptism of the Holy SpiritKundaliniLast ReformationSpeaking in TonguesTorben Sndergaard. other ditch on the far side of the road. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Torben Sondergaard was detained as a national threat for bringing firearms into the country. God will move you along as fast as your faith will allow. Jesus is coming soooooon, His return is imminent. to New Testament Christianity. I just watched the original video after reading and watching the second video. I believethat the authentic move of the Spirit of Jesus to come ( actually has already begun) will be outside the church meeting or conference halls, will be very unreligious, will be very normally and authentically human in every way ( except that it will be marked by outstanding and miraculous answers to prayer) , will be accomplished by very ordinary, imperfect , unpretentious and normal people who actually dispise and disdain the relogiosity, hyper spirituality, wierd or ostentatious behaviors of the nascent promoters of WIERDSVILLE . Sean, son your spirit is so not in tune with Jesus Hearts cry. Who originated each miracle an who copied? Seems that every time the Lord does something through someone, that is when the enemy wants to come in and steal kill and destroy, that which He has done. He loves those hungry believers. acting through Torben, to see if it is from God. The term witchcraft is only being applied to that which is not of God, not to that which is of God. I believed that I had been healed by God. ISBN: 9783955783815 | Portofrei bestellen bei Bcher Lthy. If it happened on the Day of Pentecost, who said that it would never happen again? If someone cant just agree that that is what we do as we follow Jesus then they must be going their own way. He said the hardest part is being separated from his wife and children. It is plain heresy. 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