Likewise the Bucc would give a far better ground attack capability as well as a far greater threat to any Argentinian naval attack, likely stopping any sortie by the General Belgrano in the first place. Tegelberg and HMS Rhyl Two ships of the Royal Navy have been named HMS Rhyl, after the town of Rhyl in Wales: HMS Rhyl (J36) was a Bangor -class minesweeper launched in 1940 and sold in 1948. The convoy was escorted by the sloop HMS Stork, corvettes HMS Convolvulus, HMS Marigold, HMS Pentstemon, HMS Samphire [this corvette might have already parted company though, see below] and the minesweepers HMS Acute, HMS Alarm, HMS Albacore and HMS Cadmus. On one hand, HMS Ark Royal had a small, but powerful air group. J.H. His interests include strategy, grand strategy in the Middle East and the Asia Pacific, international relations and politics, maritime strategy, counter-terrorism, counter-insurgency warfare, and maritime policy. I dont want to side with either party (On here), but I think it is a myth that the Tories are stronger on defence. H. Kirkwood, DSC, RN), HMS Farndale (Cdr. Learn about the different types of accommodation available through the Royal Navy and find an option that meets your needs. Twin Auto 6inch and twin Auto 3 Inch turrets would have ruined any ashore forces day. Of course, the small Gannet force would also have been terribly fragile. The Harriers would provide local air defence due it short legs. The Admiralty had decided to make use of the expected confusion of the landings in North Africa to run two 'small' merchant ships with important cargo to Malta. Not only the AEW Gannet would have make a diference, the Ark Royal Radar itsel was far more capable for detecting at long range that any other ship at the Falkands. St. Essylt, Convoy KMS O 1 was to pass the Strait of Gibraltar around 1630A/6; it was made up of the transports; Zebulon B. Vance (American, 7176 GRT, built 1942). Whether its dealing with the demands of deployment or the rigours of relocation, we make sure that the family and friends of Naval Service personnel have all the help, guidance and support they need, every day. Groups VI and VII were escorted by the light (AA) cruiser HMS Delhi (Capt. 1982-may. With only three or four Gannets, a single accident or maintenence crisis would have had an outsized effect the Gannet force's operations. The AEW version of the Sea King arrived in theatre after the fighting was over. Winchester Castle. Say a 18/12 split, though that's my opinion at this point. Smaller carriers are especially susceptible to being tossed around in rough weather. Now add in the Phantom's ability to go supersonic and the additional range of the SkyFlash. Miller, DSC, RNR) and HMS Jonquil (Lt.Cdr. Around 1830A/5, the M/S trawlers HMS Cava (T/Lt. F.Y. You are right will, I referenced Nott as he was removed in 1981 (Start of the cuts). After having been relieved these destroyers arrived at Gibraltar around 0545A/6. H.N.A. H.G. Could they have spared the destroyermen from their sacrificial picket duty? Big pinches of salt need to be taken when he speaks. During its last tour of duty, the aircraft complement of the Ark Royal was as follows:14 Buccaneer S2s, 12 Phantom FG1s, 4 Gannet AEW3, 1 Gannet COD4, 7 Sea king, and 2 Wessex helicopters. Even with just Harriers, that's a significant advantage. She would have needed another large refit which would have taken several years given her condition in 1979. Storey, RN) also departed Gibraltar to join the convoy. Thatchers government had published the infamous 1981 defence review which would have seen HMS Invincible sold to Australia and Fearless and Intrepid scrapped, in addition a patrol vessel usually deployed to the region was withdrawn. (1). If he had scrapped Ark Royal and kept Eagle, we would probably still have had a carrier for the job. Hore-Lacy, RN), HMS Keren (A/Cdr. They were escorted by the escort destroyers HMS Lamerton (Lt.Cdr. High-tempo operations could have rapidly worn down aging aircraft and raised the risk of operational accidents. Charles H. Cramp, 2nd division, Empire Confidence, Lycaon and Theseus. It was temperamental in cold weather. R.W. A.F. St. Essylt (British, 5634 GRT, built 1941), Island nation that depends on imported energy to keep the lights on. The F-4 was maintenance heavy and temperamental in comparison to the SHAR which chalked up astonishingly high mission availability rates during the war. If she had been retained I dont think she could have dealt with the South Atlantic without safety concerns for our men as she was very tired in 1979. S.E. Biddulph, DSC, RN), HMS Rother (Lt.Cdr. The F-4 was undoubtedly a more capable naval interceptor than the Sea Harrier. It would have provided an additional 120nm range over the SeaKing AEW. Halcrow, RD, RNR), HMS Pentstemon (Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) The point about pitching deck limits is especially important. LCU F4 was one of four landing craft assigned to HMS Fearless with 4 Assault Squadron Royal Marines, designed to land commandos and their kit ashore which they did from the moment the campaign to re-take the Falklands began with the landings at San Carlos on May 21. The equivelent of jumping up and down and shouting look at me. S.C. Dickinson, RNVR), HMS Stroma (Skr. Simpson, RNR) and HMS Rysa (T/Lt. This is the case of accountancy over strategic necessity. On 9 November the ships involved in the landings anchored in Algiers Bay. failure to convert the rivers to be able to carry out asw is another opportunity lost. The wreck remains unlocated to this day. Holland-Martin, DSC, RN) and HMS Tartar (Cdr. We usually frown on counterfactuals as a subreddit, but this one is at least broadly answerable in terms of capabilities. Ocean Wanderer (British, 7178 GRT, built 1942), Bockett-Pugh, DSO, RN) and HMS Wishart (Cdr. This is seen in the case of the Centaur class aircraft carrier HMS Hermes which did see successful action in the Falklands, and it could arguably be the case, that its very survival along with the HMS Invincible was the reason the War in the Falklands was victorious for the British. J.D.L. After the invasion there were wild celebrations, relieving the pressure on the junta. Delilian (British, 6423 GRT, built 1923), Forth then several more miles out to sea to the spot where the landing craft was last seen in 1982 following valiant efforts to salvage her, and the Still was piped in memory. Same problems with the QE2 class other than the fact that they are brand new. R.S. R. Horncastle, RN), HMS Westcott (Cdr. As for Atlantic Conveyor, I can't see how this changes things enough so that she isn't sent. Llangibby Castle (British, 11951 GRT, built 1929), The buccaneers of 809 could have hit the argue Air Force on the ground with buddy buddy refueling and phantom escort. Ede, DSO, RN), HMS Stornoway (T/A/Lt.Cdr. Manchester Port, Eight motor torpedo boats and / or motor gun boats were also set to patrol in the area. The fast convoy, KMF O1, would, after passing through the Straits of Gibraltar make rendezvous with the slow convoy, KMS O1 in position 3626'N, 0115'W. Lacon, DSC, RN) departed Gibraltar to join convoy KMF A1 and relieve HMS Achates, HMS Antelope, HMS Amazon and HMS Wivern. They may be strangers to you.. well, come on, don't be a nob, chalk one up on your tab for the guest :) Also HMS Rhyl was a Rothesay-class or Type 12I anti-submarine frigate of the Royal Navy, launched by Lady Macmillan on 23 February 1959 and commissioned in October 1960. Arc Royal carried not only the Phantom (a much better Fleet Defence fighter than the Harrier), but also the Fairey Gannet AEW.3 airborne early warning aircraft. Macharda (British, 7998 GRT, built 1938), It's formidable in ground attack/CAS with a total of eight 1000lb dumb or laser guided bombs or four 18 round SNEB rocket pods, on top of that it even carries both anti-radiation and TV guided Martel missiles, so radar sites and ships can be attacked with more specialist weapons (though sadly the Sea Eagle AShM wouldn't appear for a few more years). I think you will find that the ship you saw in Chatham Dockyard was in fact the Maintenance Ship HMS Triumph ( Ex Aircraft Carrier ). Recorder (British, 5981 GRT, built 1930), Billot, RNR), HMS Walney (Lt.Cdr. Colthurst, RN), AA ship HMS Alynbank (A/Capt.(Retd.) Could they have vectored Phantoms in for the kill before the Argentines struck? They were escorted by the corvettes HMS Convolvulus and HMS Marigold. While the Gannet would have literally saved lives, the carrier was to small to operate modern jets, hence why it only had 12 Phantom. Firth, RNVR), HMS Marigold (Lt. J.A.S. Mary Slessor (British, 5027 GRT, built 1930), Sobieski, Modern day list of ships supposedly lost by the British in the Falklands War, still showing Invincible and Hermes as considered or possibly sunk or damaged the old myths die hard: Here a more recent Argentine photograph from the press shows an impressive attack against HMS Penelope with the caption A greeting to your Queen: The only doubt I have of phantom v harrier is the ability to launch them, not sure how well the phantoms would have fared in the conditions down south. These ships were considered expendable. blakes 6 inch gun used in ngs role would have been invaluable, plus she had an armoured hull. Grubbie. 2014-2021 UK Defence Journal, all rights reserved. Cooper, RNVR). They were escorted by the AA ship HMS Tynwald, escort destroyers HMS Cowdray, HMS Zetland, sloop HMS Enchantress, minesweepers HMS Algerine, HMS Hussar, HMS Speedwell, corvettes HMS Pentstemon, HMS Samphire, MS trawlers HMS Cava, HMS Othello and the motor launches HMS ML 273 and HMS ML 295. Then there was the weather. Had there been a conventional carrier down there, such as Ark Royal, we would have been out of limits a lot of the time. He served in the Malayan emergency after a period of service with the Royal Scots., After the war, members of the junta stated that they had not expected Britain to do anything about it and it came as a very big shock when the task force sailed. L.J.S. However, sadly the aircraft carriers which replaced her were not able to be equipped with traditional aircraft. Glenfinlas (British, 7479 GRT, built 1917), Connect with like-minded people and develop a peer-to-peer support network both online and at community centres. M.D.C. Meyrick, RN) also departed to join the convoy. The ship entered HMNB Devonport, and was subsequently decommissioned on the 14th February 1979. R.deL. Fraser, RNR) and the motor launches HMS ML 280, HMS HDML 1127. On paper, that's a potent mix of capabilities. The carriers first line As Harry said, had history been different and the Ark survived into the 1980s, then (assuming it was available) it wouldnt have been as effective as the combined effect of Hermes and Invincible. No way are they going to have the predicted service life of 50 years. This is very much a what if question, that has possibly been posed by other scholars. J.B.G. War is about making the most of what you have at theRead more . D.W. Austin, RN), HMS Lauderdale (Lt. G.D. Chattanooga City (American, 5687 GRT, built 1921), Storyline: 4 ASRM. By the time she was paid off in 79 she was in a horrendous state. HMS Arc Royal at the Falklands I've been listening to Sharkey Ward's book "Sea Harrier over the Falklands" (interestingly self recorded by the author), and it has made me wonder if the Batory, R.L. J. Byron, DSC, RNR), HMS Rhododendron (Lt.Cdr. The only way we could realistically take on another country now is with the US and they have more than enough power projection of their own. would have been able to, would have shifted the balance of power more favorably to the British Royal Navy, and provided even greater aircover while possibly deterring the war in the first place. Johns, RN), HMS Antelope (Lt.Cdr. Trentham, RN), minesweepers HMS Brixham, HMS Bude, HMS Clacton, HMS Felixtowe, HMS Polruan (Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) It was made up of the USS Almaack, USS Leedstown, USS Samuel Chase, Exceller and Dempo. Physical and mental fitness are at the heart of Royal Navy life. Boys-Smith, DSO and Bar, RD, RNR), HMS Swale (Lt.Cdr. Around 1900A/7, The remainder of convoy KMF A1 split into two sections, one for ' A Sector ' (Apple Sector) and one for ' B Sector ' (Beer Sector). Around 0800A/5, the minesweepers HMS Algerine (Lt.Cdr. A.C. Whitcombe, RNR), HMS Mull (T/Lt. Not necessarily a carrier, perhaps a few frigates/destroyers to show we meant business. Unless this about lessons we shouldnt forget this is just another counter factual. Partington, RD, RNR) departed Gibraltar to join convoy KMF A1. She sank on the 10th May 1982. Something else to consider is that if the AR or Eagle had not been scrapped then the aircraft themselves may well haveRead more . Mark Twain (American, 7176 GRT, built 1942), T.E. J.D. It could carry at least four with an additional four Sidewinders. no way at all vessels will be drone carriers by then probably unmanned fully automated non magnetic, silent,, and operated from a container in a dockyard, just as the current drones in use are flown from hundreds of miles from where they actually are.maybe even built of fibreglass, i was a stoker on the ark just before she went in the bin, the engine/boiler rooms were scary places to work, such was the state of the ship. My argument here is that with the ability to launch fixed-wing aircraft which HMS. HMS Escapade and HMS Marne were apparently detached to Gibraltar on the convoy passing the Strait of Gibraltar. 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Edward Ruthledge (American, 7177 GRT, built 1942), 2nd division; Edward Rutledge, William Floyd and William Wirt. The headquarters ship HMS Bulolo and the landing ships HMS Karanja, HMS Keren, HMS Royal Scotsman, HMS Royal Ulsterman and Ulster Monarch and the attack transports USS Samuel Chase and USS Thomas Stone were also part of the convoy. However, a new government reexamined the case and found that only shore-based aircraft was not sufficient to provide the defence needs of our global interests which were East of the Suez. Its not as straightforward as many people make out. Benalbanach, ' But on the other hand, weather, aging airframes, and small numbers would have greatly constrained Ark's ability to wage a sustained air campaign. 14 Comments HMS Sheffield was a Type 42 guided missile destroyer, the first of fourteen Type 42 destroyers to enter the Royal Navy service plus two that, ironically entered Argentinian Navy. Lemkey, RNR). Churchill, RN) and HMS Wrestler (Lt. R.W.B. Oliver is a student at the University of East Anglia studying for a PhD in International Security. I do think that optically whether the Ark was a basket case or not, the Argentines may have thought twice about invading if we had the capacity to send thee carriers down there, one of them with fast jets like the Phantom. A.W. Around noon on 4 November 1942, the convoy was split up into two sections KMF A1 and KMF O1. HMS Eagle was the A memorial to mark the 40th anniversary of the deadly attack on a Royal Navy destroyer during the Falklands War has been unveiled. It had already had a reprieve and its time in-service date put forward. Corneby, RNR), HMS Kerrera (Skr. Probably they've end up being converted as Ark Royal wouldn't last forever and there was no appetite for a replacement. They had the same escort as Group III. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_naval_forces_in_the_Falklands_War If Ark Royal was still in commission it's arguable if the Argentinians would not have invaded considering it's capabilities. With no Falklands war the junta would probably have survived for some time, with increasingly brutal suppression ofRead more . Williams, RN) and HMS Cadmus (Lt.Cdr. Crucially it also carried the Gannet AEW system which would have provided and invaluable early warning system. Heimer, USCG) and USS Thomas Stone (Capt. Landers, RNR), HMS Rothesay (Cdr. Powney, RNVR) departed Gibraltar to join the convoy KMS O1. The island surrendered in the evening. HMS Forth made the short voyage from her base in the islands to the spot where Foxtrot 4 was attacked late on June 8 1982 near the mouth of Choiseul Sound about four miles southeast of Berthas Beach on East Falkland. Indeed. There is nothing at the site no wreck on the sea bed. McGregor, RN), landing ships HMS Princess Beatrix (Cdr.(Retd.) The headquarters ship HMS Bulolo and the landing ships HMS Karanja, HMS Keren, HMS Royal Scotsman, HMS Royal Ulsterman and Ulster Monarch and the attack transports USS Samuel KMF O1 then proceeded to the westwards so as to pass the Straits of Gibraltar later. Weather was to bad to land at Lampion Island but the island appeared to be uninhabited. Sign up today and take part in our online community. I heard that the the yanks were impressed by the Bucks at Red Flag. Would the Atlantic Conveyor still have been sent? IF you keep the Ark, then youve picked expeditionary warfare. Ark's Gannets had an endurance of five hours. Nieuw Zeeland (British, 11069 GRT, built 1928), Northey, DSC, RN). This is quite something and definitely would have been an effective deterrent. AR being also capable of providing AEW via the Gannet gives the task force anywhere from 100-200 miles (about 10 or 15 minutes) warning about incoming raids. 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